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Wikipedia: Links Go In But They Don’t Come Out

Wikipedia has adopted the “nofollow” tag on all of its outgoing links, in an effort to combat SEOs that have been using it as part of an SEO contest. The contest, Globalwarming Awareness2007, saw its contestants listing themselves on a Wikipedia page about the contest, knowing it would help them win the contest (which involves achieving a high rank on Google for a particular search term), and that pissed off some Wikipedians. So, for the second time, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales has dropped the hammer and made all outgoing links “nofollow”.

Wikipedia is doing this to discourage spammers, but I think they should be worried it will discourage bloggers. Lots of people link to Wikipedia, feeling that since it is an impartial and non-commercial source, it’s a good way to point readers when you write a term that they might not recognize. After this change, Wikipedia is still all that, if not more, but some people could feel jealous about the way Wikipedia is acting.

See, the way Google (and thusly, most search engines) works, is that a site gets power from the more links that point to it. Wikipedia, being popular, has a ton of links, and thus a lot of link power. Now, a site like mine, which has considerably less links, wants to get links from some mighty powerful places, like Wikipedia, since Wikipedia’s outgoing links gets power from all their incoming links.

Of course, if Wikipedia uses “nofollow”, its outgoing links have no power at all. Nofollow is a tag, added to a link but invisible to the average web server, that acts like a barrier, telling search engines not to count that link. It’s supposed to be used when linking to evil websites and commonly spammed areas, to ensure those sites don’t get better rankings in Google just because you pointed at them.

Google recommends using “nofollow” on user-submitted content, which sites cannot control well, and Wikipedia is certainly that. However, Wikipedia is also highly edited, a real controlled environment, and that means that bad links should be removed in due process, and instead of relying on its user/editors, Wikipedia is just lumping every single link in the “bad” pile.

Luckily, it looks like this could be a temporary measure, but then again, it might not, and that has raised some strong opinions. Andy Beal says:

So, in response, any future links to Wikipedia from us, will include a NOFOLLOW. Maybe if we all take that approach, Wikipedia will lose its PageRank and won’t have to worry about link-spam any longer. ;-)

He’s somewhat joking, but he’s also right. Every time I link to Wikipedia, I’m giving it a “link contribution”, helping it do better in search engines. While it isn’t as valuable as an actual donation, I would expect Wikipedia to do the same for me, linking to me as appropriate, and giving me a “contribution” the same way I give them. I consider a link from Wikipedia to be a pretty cool thing for anything I write, and I want Google to know what Wikipedia thinks of me.

Philipp puts this really well:

What happens as a consequence, in my opinion, is that Wikipedia gets valuable backlinks from all over the web, in huge quantity, and of huge importance – normal links, not “nofollow” links; this is what makes Wikipedia rank so well – but as of now, they’re not giving any of this back. The problem of Wikipedia link spam is real, but the solution to this spam problem may introduce an even bigger problem: Wikipedia has become a website that takes from the communities but doesn’t give back, skewing web etiquette as well as tools that work on this etiquette (like search engines, which analyze the web’s link structure). That’s why I find Wikipedia’s move very disappointing.

TechMeme has a lot of discussion on this as well. There are a lot of pros and cons, so I’ll give a completely different perspective:

24 days ago, I added a link to Wikipedia. It was a legitimate edit, adding completely new information to an article, and linking to one of my blogs as the source of the information, since it was the source. Now, while I’d like the link juice, if it remains “nofollow” (it currently is), I still have something else to gain:

In the 24 days since I added the link, I have had 136 referrals from that page. On average, I get 5.66 new visitors per day. That isn’t a lot, but if I made adding links to Wikipedia a part of my regular SEO strategy (and keep in mind, I only do this when it adds new information, since that’s the only way I can be sure no one will remove my link), I’d get an additional 2068 visitors a day (plus some new subscribers, as a matter of course), if I added a new link every day for a year. Having a huge amount of links from Wikipedia can make a dent, if you do it consistently and legitimately.

So, there you go. A new SEO strategy that works with Wikipedia, even if the links don’t carry any juice. Plus, if I make Wikipedia link to my sites hundreds of times year, then I change the balance, with Wikipedia giving me a hell of a lot more than I ever give to it. And that’s not so bad.

January 23rd, 2007 Posted by Nathan Weinberg | Search, General | 5 comments



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5 Comments »

  1. Good, thoughtful article. However, I wouldn’t count get referals from wikipedia as “SEO”. It is not changing your standing with the search engines at all, unless you consider more people finding your site, then maybe linking to it as SEO. This means, just about anything could be classed as SEO.

    Comment by MarkZZ | January 23, 2007

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  3. […] Nathan Weinberg (Inside Google): gives a fairly positive spin, saying this may well only be a temporary measure until Wikipedia manages to get some better URL filtering. Giving a better insight into the divide between Wikipedians and SEOers, with a lot of Wiki editors thinking SEO is synonmous with spam. […]

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  4. In a sense, SEO is no longer just about the SE, but about all sorts of website marketing. SEO is about the practice of promoting your website through links, if you ask me, regardless of the impact the link has.

    Agree/disagree?

    Comment by Nathan Weinberg | January 23, 2007

  5. The way I see it, nofollow is not necessarily a “bad” pile at all.

    It’s the unsorted pile.

    Think about it. Blogs use it in their comments section, even though the majority of links there is probably somewhat useful. It’s just to show that it might contain link spam, or links of a lesser value.

    You do it in order not to have your own site moved to the ghetto of the internet, because all the visitors dump link excrement all over the place.

    Comment by Tim | February 9, 2007

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